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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:54 pm

clay. ill put it up on the TAK site.
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:56 am

Heres another link for the file.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b125gch/n/4.2c.rar
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:20 am

If there is a 4.2 patch, why do we still play with 4.1BB ????????
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:44 pm

Because
1- it's like a mod
2- it was made by clay? (not sure)

Lol jk guys...
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:16 am

Why are we ressurrecting topics from 2 years ago?

I was almost excited that Axl came back and he was going to make it.

Shame on both of you.
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:57 am

Hatebreeder-DB wrote:
Why are we ressurrecting topics from 2 years ago?

I was almost excited that Axl came back and he was going to make it.

Shame on both of you.

I ressurected it because I really had no idea there was supposed to be a more recent patch than 4.1BB and I found strange it is not used nowdays. Fortunately, Landherr explained me what happened. Anyway, we still need a new patch. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:04 pm

I want to make a new patch, but nobody help me. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:29 pm

Lets make Tak 5.0 Very Happy
Why? To improve some details such as:

Balance
○ Treb - Make it 70% more expensive, 20% more resistant, 10% stronger
○ Rictus + Improve its range
○ Dark Hand + Make it cheaper
○ Gryphon + Fix his aiming
○ Wisp + Fix his aiming
○ Knight - Make it more expensive
○ Grenadier + Maybe a mind power like the harpy and the MindMage
○ Fire Demon - Make it a bit more expensive
○ Crusader + Make it a bit stronger
○ Rolling Towe + Make it attack a bit faster
○ Neo Dragon - Improve it's defense, and make the 3rd power require exp not as much as the holy dragons
○ Sacred Fire + Make it toggleable (like in the original version of the game)
○ Kraken + Improve its Sight (He is blind lol)
○ Improve it's attack by 80% (So it could be compared to his counterpart the "Kamikaze Rat")

These are just examples that would make the game a bit more interesting
This is just a suggestion though, I dont help Henrique with his project because I am 60% sure that nobody will use it


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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:59 pm

Spagg wrote:
Lets make Tak 5.0 Very Happy
Why? To improve some details such as:

Balance
○ Treb - Make it 70% more expensive, 20% more resistant, 10% stronger
○ Rictus + Improve its range
○ Dark Hand + Make it cheaper
○ Gryphon + Fix his aiming
○ Wisp + Fix his aiming
○ Knight - Make it more expensive
○ Grenadier + Maybe a mind power like the harpy and the MindMage
○ Fire Demon - Make it a bit more expensive
○ Crusader + Make it a bit stronger
○ Rolling Towe + Make it attack a bit faster
○ Neo Dragon - Improve it's defense, and make the 3rd power require exp not as much as the holy dragons
○ Sacred Fire + Make it toggleable (like in the original version of the game)
○ Kraken + Improve its Sight (He is blind lol)
○ Improve it's attack by 80% (So it could be compared to his counterpart the "Kamikaze Rat")

These are just examples that would make the game a bit more interesting
This is just a suggestion though, I dont help Henrique with his project because I am 60% sure that nobody will use it



ok

Treb - need more time to reload
Rictus - need to be cheaper or stronger
Dark hand - need to be useful
knight - already good
rolling tower - need to be fast
neo dragon - already good

I want to change a lot of things.

and Spagg, you dont know if someone will use my new patch, you dont see yet, you dont played yet, so you dont know

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:13 pm

b2k_Henrique wrote:

Dark hand - need to be useful

Free lichs
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:17 pm

lichs take too much time to have mana to attack, and they die befor attack lol.. e.e

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:40 pm

yep make treb stronger now that's something smart Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:59 pm

Treb is ok for me, just need to adjust the reload time (same as cannoneer).

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:09 pm

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yep make treb stronger now that's something smart Laughing

LOL! Also give gates more health and better line of sight! Making them cheaper is also something very clever, lmao!!!
Ok guys, let's get serious here. Better leave most of the units intact. Just concetrate in changing the two most officialy broken structures in the game (gates, trebs) and maybe some other units too.
* Make gates much more expensive and much more fragile, except if we really want and like most of us to build them in the middle of the battlefield in masses.
* Trebuchet must either become single (only one allowed at a time) or to give it a much shorter range, slower firing rate, weaker damage etc. We don't want Aramon players just to create a ton of defences and to treb us to death with a dozen of trebuchets, do we?
* Some small changes with other units in order to encourage players to use them. Let's make the Ark (for example) less expensive and more durable.
* Paralyzing in-game mechanics needs fixing. Lighthouses, Mage Archers, Grenadiers, Chief Enginneers have problem to succesfully paralyzing most of their targets.
* I think CUT-bugfix addon makes Wisps useful and Mage Archer's paralyzing arrows better, so we should include it in TAK's source code.
* Fix the ghost creating thing (if possible).
* Fix the off-screen thing (if possible).
* Make cartographer able to make single player missions (if possible).
* Make game able to launch online even with only AI opponents available (if possible). This is good for level/mod testing.
* Create a gaming option where you can select a mod with which to play TAK online without the use of Switcher (if possible again).
* Fix the super wave trick.
* Fix the "I move into other unit's space" bug.

As you probably understand, TAK's problems is not just imbalance in units statistics etc. These can easily be fixed. The difficult part is having the programming knowledge and tools to fix core rules of the game, like off-screen, ghost making etc. These are the problems most players complain about (as far as I know), so we have to do a lot of work...
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:17 pm

Nice one Arthan.

but only 1 person can't do it alone, why? because its tooo boring (if it wasn't I already did it ')

if someone help me.. I(we) can make a patch 5.0.

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:27 pm

b2k_Henrique wrote:
Nice one Arthan.

but only 1 person can't do it alone, why? because its tooo boring (if it wasn't I already did it ')

if someone help me.. I(we) can make a patch 5.0.

I love to help, I am noob at TAK programming but I am willing to study the TAK's code for the sake of it!!!!!
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

EDIT: About Dark Hands, do not forget that they are also really strong in melee combat with tier 1 units. They are also undead and they have lots of health, so they can stay besides Liches while they are waving all the area around them and take very little damage from the wave.


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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:35 pm

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yep make treb stronger now that's something smart Laughing

What about those match where the map is big, ground movement is hard, and its a 3v3/4v4, treb is needed or you wont finish the game in the same day, so making treb 70% more expensive will greatly reduce its amount in the map, this will make it almost useless, so a small boost in attack is fair


and about the lich, isnt lich like a weather witch? Takes time to get enough mana and dies in a second.
Still, its very usefull if you have a roc, if your enemy has zhon+taros, walking alone with your mon is extremaly dangerous.
The lich is very usefull to kill masses of hunters, kill trebs, kill lodestones, etc etc.

And the same way you use spirit wolves to get babywolves you can use 3 or 4 darkhands to get liches.


Today I found a very strange bug, Ill try to tell exactly what happened

- I put Lokken on passive and selected the Wave
- Walked in direction of some catapults and musketeers
- Kept pressing K repeatdly to avoid being hit by Kirenna's bubble ^^
- Uncloaked and at the same time tried to hit the ground (wave)
- The wave failed, tried again!
- It failed again, I cloaked again to avoid getting more damage
- I finnally used wave on the ground
- I looked at mana bar, it was FULL!
- Used another wave on the ground seconds after the first one
- Got kicked
- LOL

Ill try to reproduce this (against the AI) pirat

On and by "Wave Failed" I mean when Lokken shakes the Staff but nothing happens
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:40 pm

No, lich isnt like weather witch because weather witch can kill your mon (and other things) with 3rd attack and 1 hit with 2nd, so its fair that weather witch has less hp.

and dark hand isnt like spirit wolf because spirit wolf ressurect corpses into "babywolves" less than 1 sec. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:45 pm

Arthan, if you want help tell me.. we can make it together Very Happy

all that you need : http://www.2shared.com/file/RFrvHLly/Programs_to_Mod.html

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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:07 pm

Hail TAK and its endless science

Fvck off the dumb unskilled bastards that can't do anything but lose, make up excuses and quit

Quote :
Today I found a very strange bug, Ill try to tell exactly what happened

- I put Lokken on passive and selected the Wave
- Walked in direction of some catapults and musketeers
- Kept pressing K repeatdly to avoid being hit by Kirenna's bubble ^^
- Uncloaked and at the same time tried to hit the ground (wave)
- The wave failed, tried again!
- It failed again, I cloaked again to avoid getting more damage
- I finnally used wave on the ground
- I looked at mana bar, it was FULL!
- Used another wave on the ground seconds after the first one
- Got kicked
- LOL

Ill try to reproduce this (against the AI) pirat

On and by "Wave Failed" I mean when Lokken shakes the Staff but nothing happens

Make sure that's not another mod/map/whatever cheaty/strange thing that has already happened many times
If I had TAK here I would test it now ^^


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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:09 pm

It was sewers
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:10 pm

Mind making a video and uploading it? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:14 pm

Sure! If you give me a time machine Razz
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:17 pm

sauhsauhsau seu filha da puta

Thought you could reproduce what happened lol, what's the point of the steps then shut up
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PostSubject: Re: What does everyone think of an updated patch?   Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:21 pm

The steps could help someone tell me if this happened to them before

I wrote them here cuz I wanna test them later

I dont know, tak is full of bugs everything is possible Very Happy

But it really happened! Surprised
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