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PostSubject: Best units.   Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:39 am

So I played a few games against the computer.. and I downloaded everything including warzone and game ranger. I read everyones post and I'm sorry for being mean. I'd like to start playing again and I have something I want to talk about.

Do you think we can compile a list of the best units in the game? Lets say you wanted to create a fake race of the best of the best. Do you think warriors would be the best tier 1 melee, and maybe hunters, the best tier 1 ranged? Whats the best builder?
Just for fun!
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:36 am

Monarch- Elsin
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- mage builder (creon just too expensive...)
tier 1 soldier- executioner
tier 1 ranged- hunter
tier 1 extra units- veruna cats, mer warriors, fire wagon
Naval units- Veruna (includes dock, boats)
tier 2 building - keep
tier 2 soldier- crusader (cant be converted)
tier 2 ranged- mage archer
tier 2 extra units- beast rider, titan, harpy, knights, witch, neo dragon
tier 3 builder- Aco
tier 3 units- Roc, Stone Giant
tier 4 builder- flying builder
defensive structures- mage tower, veruna arch tower, treb
dragon- gold
god- ghost of garcius

im a little tired might have missed something
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:58 pm

Monarch- Elsin
bird- gargoyle
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Dark Mason
tier 1 soldier- Warrior
tier 1 ranged- Hunter
tier 1 extra units- horseman, swamp beast
Naval units- Creon Navy
tier 2 building- Keep
tier 2 soldier- spirit wolf
tier 2 ranged- fire demon
tier 2 extra units- dark hand, dirigible, blade demon, fire mage, gryphon
tier 3 builder- Dark Priest
tier 3 units- Fallen Angel, Giant Barracuda, Roc
defensive structure- death totem, light house, prismatic mirror
dragon- juggernaught
god- tammuz


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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:07 am

Despite the fact choosing the best units in a game is totally against my ideology (I strongly believe each unit must be treated with equal respect) here I post the units I know how to use best in each tier, so the strongest units for me and just me:

*When I play a skirmish game against AI:
Monarch- Thirsha
tier 1 building- Smithy
tier 1 builder- Beast Handler
tier 1 soldier- Troll
tier 1 ranged- Archer
tier 1 extra units- Tortoise, Aramon Catapult, Veruna Catapult
Naval units- Gaint Barracuda, Kraken, Harpoon Ship
tier 2 building- Abyss
tier 2 soldier- Barbarian, Crusader
tier 2 ranged- Centaur, Skeleton Archer
tier 2 extra units- Dark Hand, Dirigible, Rolling Tower
tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr
tier 3 units- Drake, Ballista, Sky Dragon
defensive structure- Stronghold, Bastion
dragon- Ancient Dragon
god- Wrath of Tammuz

*When I play an online game against human players:
Monarch- Kirenna
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Dark Mason, Priestess
tier 1 soldier- Warrior, Swordsman
tier 1 ranged- Crossbowman
tier 1 extra units- Ghost Ship, Tortoise
Naval units- Man of War, Iron Clad
tier 2 building- Academy
tier 2 soldier- Berzerker
tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper
tier 2 extra units- Gryphon
tier 3 builder- Chief Engineer
tier 3 units- Stone Giant
defensive structure- Caged Demon, Death Totem, Lighthouse
dragon- Sea Dragon
god- Ghost of Garacaius

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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:15 pm

Monarch- Sage
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Dark Mason
tier 1 soldier- automation
tier 1 ranged- black knight
tier 1 extra units- zombie, goblin, tortoise
Naval units- submersible, repair skiff, transport ship, man-o-war
tier 2 building - Academy
tier 2 soldier- Berzerker
tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper
tier 2 extra units- Basilik, Sky Knight, Amazon Knight, Skeleton Archer
tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr
tier 3 units- Rolling Tower, Balista, Giant Baracuda
tier 4 builder- flying builder
defensive structures- Gatling Crossbow, Bomb Sprinkler, Lighthouse
dragon- Ancient Dragon
god- Lihr


Make fun of it all you want, this race would rock!
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:26 am

Clay4141 wrote:
Monarch- Sage
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Dark Mason
tier 1 soldier- automation
tier 1 ranged- black knight
tier 1 extra units- zombie, goblin, tortoise
Naval units- submersible, repair skiff, transport ship, man-o-war
tier 2 building - Academy
tier 2 soldier- Berzerker
tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper
tier 2 extra units- Basilik, Sky Knight, Amazon Knight, Skeleton Archer
tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr
tier 3 units- Rolling Tower, Balista, Giant Baracuda
tier 4 builder- flying builder
defensive structures- Gatling Crossbow, Bomb Sprinkler, Lighthouse
dragon- Ancient Dragon
god- Lihr


Make fun of it all you want, this race would rock!

Impressive! Clay has included the useless Automaton and Shock Trooper units in his list. But, dear Clay, I thought you were believing that Automatons and Shock Troopers were useless, weren't you? I do not make fun of your choice, I am just impressed by it. Exclamation Question Exclamation Question Exclamation Question
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:16 am

I think you just got trolled Arthan. Just saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:20 am

he just learned from the best one ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:59 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:27 pm

Woaaa i want play it too...here i go

Monarch- Kirenna
Flying unit- Bat
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Mechanic
tier 1 soldier- Execturioner
tier 1 ranged- crossbowman
tier 1 extra units- catapult(ver), fire wagon)
Naval units- Man of war, swamp beast and harpoon ship
tier 2 building- Keep
tier 2 soldier- zerker
tier 2 ranged- mage archer
tier 2 extra units- neo dragon, canooner , crusader and fire demon
tier 3 builder- Aco
tier 3 units- Titan, Fire Mage, Roc (i put titan as tier 3 cuz they deserve to be consider as one)
tier 4 builder- Flying Builder
defensive structure- Lighthouse, Death Totem and Treb (if i could add one more it would be a Bastion to blow everything around it xD)
dragon- Black Dragon
god- Ghost of Garacaius

You have everything you need here. Long and good range with catas, cannons and fd. You have a hunt unit (zerker) good warriors (executioner, crusader), and the best ranged in my opinion that are crossbowman and mage archer. A roc to allow me some good drops of fire mages, acos and titans (simple like that). The badass fleet to attack and protect everything, naval units and air units. Death Totem, is the best tower in mana cost considering its damage, lighthouse for a good sigh and radar a treb just for safe, and like veruna have 4 structures of defense(tower, bastion lighthouse and mortar) if i could add a bastion it would be cool to.
Black Dragon the mother-fooker Dragon and Ghost of Garacaius i dont need to tell why.
That is my opinion after all.

Edit. Btw kirenna is just chemical thing, but is the best to wave, and with the pursuit bubble that i can throw as 4 times is pretty good.
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:07 pm

Bl4ckR4v3N wrote:
I think you just got trolled Arthan. Just saying.

@Bl4ckR4v3N: I am not trolling, Black Raven. There was a huge argument with Caly4141 about Automatons, Shock Troopers, Fire Wagons and Beast Riders. Clay4141 said that Automatons & Shock troopers were almost useless units, since Fire Wagons were much better in almost every situation and Beast Riders are just the best Creon unit. On the other hand, ARTHAN (me, LOL!) said that every unit has its use and wrote some strategies about using Automatons & Shock Troopers together. That's why I got surprised by Clay's post. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:21 pm

I would like to see more people add to this game. Its a fun idea.
Where art tho NOOBHAWK? MYST? ...JOKER?

Based on my fake race I was going for cannon fodder tier 1.
Zombies to instantly move to base. Automations to patrol. Goblins to patrol, if the goblins make it there, have them attack buildings/factories. Black Knights to kill birds, Tortoises to shoot from behind my walking walls.

Tier 2. Skeleton archers are weak and can produce alot to fill in behind the fodder. Sky Knights just look cool and can maybe take out cannons or builders. Amazon Knights just for fun to run around with and distract. And berzerkers can get in fast and take out buildings like goblins. And shock troopers because their lightning makes a cool sound.

The rolling tower is bc I'd build one to protect Sage because I'd have him up front with his morter shooting over my walking walls. *shrug* I like to be different.
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:28 pm

Clay4141 wrote:
I would like to see more people add to this game. Its a fun idea.
Where art tho NOOBHAWK? MYST? ...JOKER?.


yeah.. i didnt answer much here because i was sick of stupid discussion, this thrash, stupid hole .. etc who is better player.
Now i see hope its finished (or just paused) for long time ^^ so I might be active here again little more.

Monarch- Elsin
tier 1 building- Enclave
tier 1 builder- Priestess (so hot)
tier 1 ranged- archer (remind me of Robin Hood lol)
tier 1 extra units- ghost ship (so scarry)
Naval units- ark xD
tier 2 building - catidel
tier 2 soldier- crusader (paladins!)
tier 2 ranged- skeleton arches (because i liked to crash them with my barbarian from diablo2)
tier 2 extra units- fire mage
tier 3 builder- Dark priest (ghouls!!!!)
tier 3 special units -
defensive structures- mage tower
dragon- black
god- atheist ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:31 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:31 pm

I've edited my 2nd post to reflect what units I would really like to have.
I like units that can ressurect other units, and units that leave corpses, so I can easily create a larger army on the go.
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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:36 pm

Monarch - Sage ( he looks stupid )
tier 1 building -cabal ( its have nice fire when have a little health )
tier 1 builder - mage builder ( this hammer )
tier 1 range - hunter
tier 1 soldier - troll
tier 1 extra unit - zoombie ( big amount health ) catapult swamp beast ( if water on map )

Naval no any navals

tier 2 build - beast tamer ( good price )
tier 2 soldier - barbarian
tier 2 ranged - fire demon
tier 2 extra unit - spirit wolf berzerker

tier 3 build - acolyte ( spells health aura)
tier 3 units - roc , jungle orc
tier defensive structure - mage tower
dragon - black*
god- garracious

* one time when i play vs 7 cpu i got black dragon who killed 1108 guys that was epic game

have anyone units statistics ( with Crusade ballance ) on excel?


Edit
but a long time ago i see statistic ( maybe on RX-clan web site ) with many many details ( but that was for 3.0 ):


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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:38 pm

Hatebreeder posted a spreadsheet of all the unit statistics awhile ago.. i don't remember where it's at though.. check the DB section of the clan forums.

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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:34 am



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PostSubject: Re: Best units.   Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:38 pm

On-my-way wrote:
Monarch - Sage ( he looks stupid

hahaha Sage will block your ip and kill you ^^

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